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Hi Dr. Sassi, Patrick, I have an issue, and I can not figure out what the culprit is. My editor window shows one thing, and my picture viewer shows another. I have attached the file folder and will try to upload a screen capture, comparing my results. The results in the editor window is what I’d like to render out as a still. This file was originally created for an animation. Any help would be huge!-thanks in advance, Craig

Hi Craig,

You use the application since a while, so no idea directly—otherwise I would suggest to check the “Traffic-Lights” in the Object Manager. Similar to that is what can happen with the “Layer Manager” [Layers].

Level of details perhaps… well I start to do guess work here, which I consider always as a waste of time on both sides, so I will wait for the files.

Do you have any option to link the material. obviously the options are limited currently.

All the best

Sassi

rendering-issue

Hi Dr. Sassi, please let me know if you receive this. I may not be able to check back until tomorrow, eastern time. Please do not worry about the textures, my main concern is why I am not seeing what I want to see. Thanks, Craig

Craig, the link is not working, please paste the complete URL into the text (next post of course) This link above opens my Browser and shows rendering-issue as URL. No idea how to fix that.

When I open you post to see some hidden text, this is what I see (I had to put spaces between u-r-l so you can see it— [u r l=http://rendering-issue]rendering-issue[/url]

rendering-issue rendering-issue

how is this?

I do not think that it worked , will continue to try-cz

http://rendering-issue

http://rendering-issue

It’s the same. No show. There is no suffix nor anything. It might work in your Net, but outside of it obviously not.

What are you using? It feels like the long threads with Drop Box, I might be wrong here. Just the name of the file is not working.

http://rendering-issue    is not an option.

Perhaps save the scene and merge it in a new one. Same problem?

Hi Craig,

The scene seems like a collage from different artists. Some constructions made me wonder what they do. A XPresso misses an object and has so invalid connectors.

However, the main problem seems to be based in the use of the Standard Particles. Keep in mind that particles need to build up over time. If you like to have them at any time exactly as expected, they need to be cached.

The “Editor View” is refreshing many times if you stay at the same frame. Sometimes pressing the “A” key does this refreshing as well. This is needed to keep “you” working, while things are processed in the background.
The “Picture Viewer” is a with very little exceptions a one time run trough the frame and process the given parts. Having said that, typically, each object has a very specific position in this process, based on Priority settings or position in the Object Manager. For the rendering this is not a cycle-like process as in the Editor view, the data is available or not. If not available, the data is taken from the frame before. If something like that happen, a chain reaction might occur. I had examples in the past years here on Cineversity where three frames delay were established based on ignoring that process priority. Again, this doesn’t show up in the Editor view, as it cycles through.

So, two things need to be acknowledged, processes which are build up over time and which are not cached might show up differently in Editor and Picture Viewer. Caching and baking is the key here. Baking stands here as well for the turning processes into keyframes. Secondly, priority, priority ....etc. Kai has produced fro Cineversity a Priority series, which I consider as a “must see”—“must know”! There is no way around, if you work with complex scenes like the one you send to me.

My best wishes

Sassi

http://old.cineversity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3332&PN=1

This shows how to get the “public link” for the use with “Drop-Box”.

Thanks for your help-I will review the dropbox info, as well as the “priority”  settings from Patrick-stay well, your help is always priceless to me ; )

The series was done by Kai, and he is certainly a master of that stuff.

My main suggestion for your scene is caching and baking. Priority perhaps a little bit.

Good luck, Craig.

http://www.cineversity.com/vidplaylist/advanced_constraints/expression_priorities_part_i