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Posted: 30 May 2020 01:58 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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hey Dr. Sassi I bought some hair from Turbosquid some braids how do I attach it to my character ?

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Posted: 30 May 2020 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Hi julopez,

I really like to help, but you give me very little to work with.

I have no idea what you bought nor what you like to do. This is a thread with a specific theme. I do not feel that it fits it. Mixing up questions will lead to a hard to use the forum. (Edit, I have split the thread, so please post below any question regarding your set up. Please open a new thread if you have a different question. I’m happy to look into it.

Perhaps Patrick has an answer for you in this tutorial:
https://www.cineversity.com/vidplaylist/hair_overview_the_hair_object/hair_overview_the_hair_object_part_4

If you like to use any cloud services, I touch only Dropbox, Amazon, Google, Apple, or Adobe.
(I have sent an upload link via Private Messages, see top middle of this site)

Again, when I have something to work with, I’m happy to look into it.

Cheers.

Edited after the thread split.

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Posted: 30 May 2020 08:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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hey sorry this is the hair that I got and I am trying to add it to a character I got from daz 3d that I transferred to cinema 4d
https://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/578090

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Posted: 30 May 2020 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Thanks for the reply, julopez.

Please don’t worry about the other thread. I assume everyone likes to have a thread not mixed up when looking for an answer. I believe that your intentions were positive, saving space. Again, don’t worry, all good.

Thanks for the link, It says the format is Maya. If you have Maya, then open it and save it as OBJ or Alembic. Whatever works best for you.

It tells me 400 polygons. So, it might be just a question of scaling, if the head shape is otherwise a good fit.

The upload link offers stays; I keep any file/folder-content private with the word private in it.

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Posted: 30 May 2020 10:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Hi julopez, I got the files.

The FBX 1.1 with over 120MB crashes when I try to open it.
The .ma file is a Maya file, nothing that I can open or do anything with it.  Sorry. As I wrote, if you have Maya, open it and save it as Obj of Alembic, whatever Maya gives you.  Then you should be able to open it in Cinema 4D.
I was able to see the Hair model’s texture, which confirms that it is just a polygon model. The central part can be mapped on the head, and the braid could be done with polygon stripes. Nothing that I think is anything that will look convincing.

Here is an example of how you can do it directly, and I guess it is more fun to have it adjustable. Just to be clear, I modeled this braid quickly, and you can use it for your artwork. Please don’t sell it wink
Project file and screen capture:
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/fgU33LgTHLKbAhGuduYrR0htpEmhLZtYNBGWS7iJIO2

As a side note, have a look here.
https://help.maxon.net/us/index.html#OHAIR-HAIRSTYLE_GROUP_HAIRS

My best wishes for your explorations.

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Posted: 01 June 2020 06:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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hey Dr thanks for your help you been a huge help , I got a huge question I am trying to get a Mercedes car from turbo squid ( what does “editorial use only” mean ?

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Posted: 01 June 2020 06:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Hi julopez, you’re very welcome.

On the Turbosquid site is a—?—in the lower right corner. Please ask them. I’m not a lawyer, but I had enough years of law in my studies to keep quiet here. wink

Whatever they offer, be aware that the modeler of such a car needs to have the OK from the company owning the design. Since none of these companies would give that right to anyone to sell it even further (AFAIK), I think that is a gray zone in which they move to begin with. I can’t be in any way part of it. Sorry. Read the fine print of any offer. Carefully.

Anyone could put these models in an unwanted context, and the brand might sell fewer cars based on that. Hence my assumption about it. Besides, I feel not entitled to give any legal advice here.

What I can say is, check the Content Browser (if you have downloaded all content), you find cars typically inside of it. Many years ago, there was even a Mercedes SL in it, I wonder why it is no longer provided.

Another tip would be to check out other options and compare prices and quality, e.g., Dosch. Perhaps also, how much these cars can be animated and changed.

Enjoy your project.

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Posted: 03 June 2020 05:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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hey dr Sassi I got the file converted into a Cinema 4d file can you show me how to connect the hair to the head ? can I send you the file so you can open it and see?

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Posted: 03 June 2020 05:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Hi julopez (all small letters?)

I have sent a new upload link, at the moment you upload something, I get an email. Which means I will have a look at it.

Cheers

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Posted: 03 June 2020 07:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Hi julopez,

I hope this is the fastest way, as the Hair Object and the Head have different shapes.
While the Character’s Skin Object is off. Skin Object off, while being in Reset Binding position.

Here are an example file and a screen capture.
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/zvQmBe8IFlrFcRw839HsHsEVMBIY52fAUHo31KIa1QL

The first step is to scale it down. Leave some air between the object and the head.
Now select all points close to the head of the Hair Object and give those points 50 % Weight. It can be more, but not close to 100%.

With this, we can restrict the Shrink Wrap Deformer, as the Head shape and the Hair Object shape are not the same. For your scene, use the Source Axis in the Shrink Deformer.

We can now pull the points toward the head to get it to sit overall nicely. There will be some areas that will not fit, to close or too far.

Now we paint (Add or subtract) weight to it, as shown in the clip.

When it is not too tight, we create via Current State To Object, a copy.

This copy is then bound (BIND) to the head Joint.

I added a Wiggle Deformer to the Braid. Those would have a weight Tag as well and be restricted gradually: Tips more weight than close to the roots.


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Edit 10:30pm: Check your Private Messages here on Cineversity. I have sent the character back with the Polygon Hair Object set up.

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Posted: 04 June 2020 05:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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thank you so much Dr. Sassi you are a great help appreciate your time

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Posted: 04 June 2020 05:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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You’re very welcome, julopez, thanks for taking the time.

If you have any questions about the process, please let me know.

My best wishes for your project.

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Posted: 06 June 2020 03:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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hey Dr. Sassi I hope you are having a wonderful day I know its Saturday sorry lol but I have a question, my friend rigged a character for me I can’t really get it to function right can you help me out with this

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Posted: 06 June 2020 05:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Hi julopez,

Sure, I can take a look. I assume it is not rated R and politically correct.

Please start a new thread when the theme is new. Otherwise, we make it really hard for everyone. Think of any artist who has a problem and is searching for something, only to find endless threads with multiple themes. Not very useful, right? I hope you will benefit from this as well.

Why is someone rigging it, and not give you instructions? That is part of the deal, isn’t it?

Please let me know (in the new thread) if you need an upload link.

If you have a cloud service, please note (for security reasons), I use ONLY: Dropbox, Amazon, Google, Adobe, or Apple cloud services.

All the best

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Posted: 04 September 2020 06:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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hey DR Sassi , i am trying to shrink the hair like you did in the small tutorial video you made but for some reason i cant figure it out , i am missing a small orange box next to the shrink under the bookmarks,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OPecyHj38-xnR-i66B_oxs4FrLK2hjLM/view?usp=sharing

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Posted: 04 September 2020 06:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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Hi julopez,

Thanks for using Google Cloud.

The Set up in your image is missing the Restriction Tag.
Object Manager> Tags> Rigging Tags> Restriction Tag.

Drag the Vertex map into this tag.

The idea is that zero weight in the Vertex tag shuts the influence entirely off. Any value above allows for more effect of the Shrink Wrap deformer. Reducing a value that is larger than zero allows accordingly for less impact.

Example:
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/TMu7THxO96HXteAbAoFlUDX6fP6qwOx6tEKsXfjaGc1

Let me know if this works for you.

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